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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">The trip south through the Atlantic had not been a leisurely pleasure cruise. Schneider used the opportunity to constantly drill the crew and hone their skills. Drills of all sorts were run, ranging from fire and flooding to mock torpedo attacks. He would "crash dive" the boat at random intervals, a stop watch in his hand to evaluate how long it took to get the boat from fully surfaced to periscope depth (65 feet). A well trained crew could dive the big fleet boat in 35-40 seconds. | <div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">The trip south through the Atlantic had not been a leisurely pleasure cruise. Schneider used the opportunity to constantly drill the crew and hone their skills. Drills of all sorts were run, ranging from fire and flooding to mock torpedo attacks. He would "crash dive" the boat at random intervals, a stop watch in his hand to evaluate how long it took to get the boat from fully surfaced to periscope depth (65 feet). A well trained crew could dive the big fleet boat in 35-40 seconds. | ||
Around mid-day on October 11, the boat was approaching Point Dog, and they raised Cape Engano on the eastern tip of the island of Hispaniola right on time. They proceeded | Around mid-day on October 11, the boat was approaching Point Dog, and they raised Cape Engano on the eastern tip of the island of Hispaniola right on time. They proceeded apace the Mona Passage between the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, passing through Point Easy and out into the Caribbean. | ||
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">By October 12, Dorado had company on her transit across the Caribbean. | <div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">By October 12, Dorado had company on her transit across the Caribbean Sea. | ||
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Introduction
What we present below is the scenario as we understand it at this time, and it admittedly is not the only possibility. Subsequent research and/or actually finding the wreck site has the potential to radically alter the story. Thank you for your interest. If you have questions or comments, please direct them to ussdoradoproject@gmail.com.
The Departure

She passed under the U.S. Route 1 bridge, with the venerable structure lifted open to allow the boat to pass underneath. She passed the main Electric Boat facility on her port beam, and a little further downstream she passed the Victory Yard where she was built. Men and women toiling in the cool October air on Dorado's sister subs paused for a moment, proudly acknowledging their handiwork as the submarine passed. They wished her luck as she headed off to war.
The crew was experiencing a mixed set of emotions. They had come to enjoy their stay in Connecticut and had a deep appreciation for the hard work put forth on their behalf by the Electric Boat personnel. Friendships had developed with the workers that the men valued. Some of the crew had brought family members to the Groton/New London area and they were now leaving that all behind; a touch of sadness prevailed as they sailed down the Thames River. There was also a palpable sense of anxiety as they pushed the bow of the boat into the unknown. The experienced men knew of the combat that laid ahead, the inexperienced men put on a brave face as they tamped down their fears. All of that was tempered by the excitement of finally moving forward. They were well trained and confident in themselves and their shipmates, and despite lingering anxiety they eagerly anticipated the adventure that laid ahead.
Fishing vessels hailed her as she passed the mouth of the Thames and Schneider rang up an ahead standard bell with turns for 14 knots. The bridge watch team kept a wary eye on the Fisher's Island and Montauk ferries as they passed, with a little maneuvering left and right intended to keep the ferries at a safe distance. Clearing Fisher's Island she made a slight turn to the southeast, putting her on course to pass down the middle between Montauk Point on her starboard side and Block Island on her port. Down below in the control room the Quartermasters and the Navigator were busy piloting the submarine, shooting bearings with the periscope to land-based navigation aids, using those bearings to triangulate their position on the chart. With Montauk Point on their starboard quarter, they took their "point of departure", i.e. the last confirmed land-based navigational fix, and headed out into the blue Atlantic.

The Voyage

The final waypoint was Point George, 15 nautical miles (NM) north of the Cristobal Breakwater, a structure that defined the harbor for Cristobal and Colon. At George the Dorado was to rendezvous with a U.S. destroyer, who would escort Dorado on the surface the last few miles to the submarine base. This rendezvous was supposed to happen at 1300 local (1:00 pm) on the afternoon of October 14. This date/time is very important for several reasons:
- Being escorted into the harbor by the destroyer would prevent Dorado from being mistaken for a German submarine (known to be operating in the Caribbean) and being fired upon by friendly forces.
- Traffic through the canal was was very high, and specific times were assigned to ships for passage so that the possibility of traffic jams was avoided. If Dorado missed her transit time, it would delay her voyage all the way to Pearl Harbor and the war zone.
- The date/time of her arrival at Point George also dictated the speed of her transit, known properly as her "speed of advance" (SOA). To make Point George on time her SOA was 14 knots. This was also a fuel efficient speed and was well within her maximum surface speed of 21 knots. However, it also dictated that Dorado make the transit mostly on the surface, as her maximum submerged speed was only eight knots. LCDR Schneider had the discretion to submerge as he saw fit for drills and training, but he had to maintain the average speed of 14 knots in order to make George on time.
Dorado would also make the voyage under a condition known as "radio silence". This was a procedure in which Dorado was not to use her radio for routine transmissions, out of a concern that German submarines in the area might use those transmissions to triangulate her position. The crew could receive broadcasts, and Schneider had the latitude to report serious circumstances if he felt it was warranted, but things like routinely reporting her position and administrative traffic was not allowed.




The zone was big enough to allow the zig-zag course to be conducted, and for periodic dives for training and drills. However, it was incumbent upon the crew of Dorado to ensure they stayed within the zone at all times. Allied surface and aerial forces were understandably a bit on edge due to the threat of German submarines, and this zone was intended to eliminate the "friendly" threat to U.S. submarines transiting to Panama.

October 11 to 12, 1943
Around mid-day on October 11, the boat was approaching Point Dog, and they raised Cape Engano on the eastern tip of the island of Hispaniola right on time. They proceeded apace the Mona Passage between the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, passing through Point Easy and out into the Caribbean.


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