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[[File: | [[File:Paul fredrick odell-3a.jpg|left|thumb|125px|<small>CRM Paul F. O'Dell, USN.</small>]] | ||
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">In the United States Navy, there is an old saying that pontificates "The officers are in charge, but the Chiefs run the Navy", and that is an undeniable truth. A Chief Petty Officer was the highest rank for an enlisted man during the war years. Chiefs wear their gold fouled anchor and USN badge on their combination cap with pride, as they are respected as highly experienced and expert sailors, often with decades of service, having worked their way with gritty determination from the lowest Seaman all the way up to this august rank. A Chief has done everything, seen everything, and been everywhere. They are considered to be technical experts and leaders of men. They are the "get-it-done" element on any Navy ship, organizing and leading work parties of junior sailors, mentoring them, teaching them, and at times keeping them in-line with iron discipline. Many new enlisted men look to the Chiefs | <div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">In the United States Navy, there is an old saying that pontificates "The officers are in charge, but the Chiefs run the Navy", and that is an undeniable truth. A Chief Petty Officer was the highest rank for an enlisted man during the war years. Chiefs wear their gold fouled anchor and USN badge on their combination cap with pride, as they are respected as highly experienced and expert sailors, often with decades of service, having worked their way with gritty determination from the lowest Seaman all the way up to this august rank. A Chief has done everything, seen everything, and been everywhere. They are considered to be technical experts and leaders of men. They are the "get-it-done" element on any Navy ship, organizing and leading work parties of junior sailors, mentoring them, teaching them, and at times keeping them in-line with iron discipline. Many new enlisted men look to the Chiefs as father figures, the guidance and advice they provide filling a large gap that the young men experience from recently leaving their families behind. Their experience, wisdom, and technical know-how is sought out even by the junior officers (Ensigns, Lieutenant Junior Grades, etc.) as they learn the tricks of the trade. Dorado had eight Chief's assigned, and they were the nucleus of the crew, with the officer's relying on them to a great extent indeed. They helped in training and organizing the crew, a large percentage of which were brand new sailors and not yet [[Qualification Books|'''Qualified in Submarines''']]. <br><br><br> | ||
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<small>Crew portraits courtesy of oneternalpatrol.com.</small> | <small>Crew portraits courtesy of oneternalpatrol.com.</small> | ||
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==Spotlight on Chief Radioman Paul F. O'Dell, USN== | |||
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">The USS Dorado Project was recently gifted a collection of photographs of one of Dorado's crewmen, Chief Radioman Paul O'Dell. They were collected by submarine historian Ric Hedman of Seattle during an online auction on eBay. Ric is not sure the origin of the photos, but it is likely that they came from the nieces or nephews of Chief O'Dell, since it is strongly suspected that he did not have any children. Any information that can be provided from the family would be greatly appreciated. The team is indebted to Ric for his generous donation. | |||
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">The first photo shows Chief Gunner's Mate James O'Dell (left) posing with his kid brother Paul, approximately 1920. Paul is wearing his brother James' uniform. Paul did not enlist in the Navy until 1927. The second photo shows Paul with his wife Dorothy probably in the fall of 1941 after being discharged from Naval Hospital Mare Island. Note that on his lower left sleeve he has three hash marks, indicating he had between 12 and 16 years of service (each stripe indicated four years). He actually had 14 years of service when this photo was taken. At this point O'Dell is a Radioman 1st Class, and he would make Chief in March, 1942. The remainder of the photos show O'Dell after his promotion. He is shown with four hash marks on his left sleeve, indicating a minimum of 16 years of service. He also has his white embroidered "Dolphins" insignia on his right sleeve, indicating that he is a part of the elite "Brotherhood of Submariners", i.e. [https://pigboats.com/index.php?title=Qualification_Books '''Qualified in Submarines''']. He seems to be one of those typical Navy Chief's, with the ability to be both stern and jovial. He had an infectious smile, but could also muster a look that could make even the most recalcitrant young sailor suddenly compliant. Please take the time to read a full biography of this Dorado sailor by historian Ric Hedman [[O'Dell|'''at this link''']]. | |||
<small>All photos donated to the Project by Ric Hedman.</small> | |||
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==Spotlight on LCDR Earle C. Schneider, USN== | |||
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color:#00008B">Two nice photos of Schneider and his family on Dorado's launch day, May 23, 1943. Schneider's father was an "old salt" Chief Radioman, with the nine hash marks on his left sleeve indicating over 36 years of service. Schneider's family seemed very happy and proud of his accomplishments. | |||
<small>First photo courtesy of NHHC, second photo via Dr. Douglas Campbell.</small> | |||
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A photo of a smiling Schneider outside a home, likely sometime between 1940 and 1942. | |||
<small>Photo courtesy of Findagrave.com.</small><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> | |||
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This photo shows Schneider on the aft fairwater gun deck, aka the "cigarette deck", with artists Tom Benton (left) and George Schreiber (right), September, 1943. The artists had been commissioned by Navy's Office of Public Relations Art and Poster Section to create a series of illustrations depicting life on a submarine for use in morale building posters for the country. It just so happened that Dorado was running her trials and training cruises at the time and the artists spent several days aboard Dorado and eventually other submarines and created a series of memorable works of art. Those works can be seen on the Navsource Dorado page [https://www.navsource.net/archives/08/08248.htm '''at this link''']. | |||
<small>Photo courtesy of the Archives of American Art.</small> | |||
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The crew is lead by its officers, college educated men that provide the boat with its direction and resolve. At the top is the Commanding Officer (aka CO or Skipper), a seasoned veteran and experienced man of the sea, a man who knows the "art" of submarining down to its core. During WWII the CO could be a senior Lieutenant (LT), but was most often a Lieutenant Commander (LCDR) or Commander (CDR). By 1943 the CO of a fleet submarine had risen up through the officer ranks, having served on several submarines previously, and had likely also had surface ship experience. He would be intelligent and driven, capable of multi-tasking on a high level. He would be capable of solving complex mathematical calculations quickly in his head, all the while managing a complex fighting machine in a calm and decisive manner.




In the fall of 1943 it was common to have only about 60% of the crew qualified when a new submarine is commissioned. Some of the crew have come from other submarines and are already qualified, but since the bulk of the crew are actually junior enlisted and officers many of them are still learning when the boat leaves the states for the war zone. The goal is to get the crew as close to 100% qualified as they can get before they depart their assigned station for the first war patrol. However, qualifying is a never completed process, as experienced crew members are constantly departing between patrols, with new ones arriving to replace them.
So this was Dorado's crew. The officers, Chiefs, and junior enlisted that provided that fighting submarine with its heart and soul. In the words of submarine historian Ric Hedman, "These sailors were the boys down the street, around the corner, out on the farms. They were the high school football heroes, and yes, even the geeks of their time. But they became one of the elite, one of that 1% that made the cut and became "Qualified in Submarines". They were, and still are, the best of the best of the United States Navy."

For now, it is not our intention to list every member of the Dorado's crew here, as that function has already been thoroughly accomplished by our friend and colleague Charles Hinman at the On Eternal Patrol Dorado page. Please visit that page and acknowledge the men who sailed on Dorado.
What we would really like is to have family members and friends submit to us stories, remembrances, anecdotes, and photographs of the Dorado's crew. One of our primary goals is to ensure that these men, all of whom made "The Final Sacrifice" for us, will never be forgotten. It would be a museum of the crew, so to speak, posted here on this site. Help us to preserve their memory, and to honor them by sending your thoughts and memories to ussdoradoproject@gmail.com. Thank you!
Crew portraits courtesy of oneternalpatrol.com.

Spotlight on Chief Radioman Paul F. O'Dell, USN
All photos donated to the Project by Ric Hedman.

Spotlight on LCDR Earle C. Schneider, USN
First photo courtesy of NHHC, second photo via Dr. Douglas Campbell.

A photo of a smiling Schneider outside a home, likely sometime between 1940 and 1942.
Photo courtesy of Findagrave.com.

This photo shows Schneider on the aft fairwater gun deck, aka the "cigarette deck", with artists Tom Benton (left) and George Schreiber (right), September, 1943. The artists had been commissioned by Navy's Office of Public Relations Art and Poster Section to create a series of illustrations depicting life on a submarine for use in morale building posters for the country. It just so happened that Dorado was running her trials and training cruises at the time and the artists spent several days aboard Dorado and eventually other submarines and created a series of memorable works of art. Those works can be seen on the Navsource Dorado page at this link.
Photo courtesy of the Archives of American Art.

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